I just finished listening to your interview with Roberta Grimes and am currently reading your book. I am also writing
a book which is an afterlife love story about a man that I met in 1980, and had
a very short affair with. He graduated (i.e. transitioned) in 2003, but I only
became aware of his presence in my life in 2014, the first time I spoke with a
In your chapter on reincarnation and past lives, I became
quite confused. I have done past life regression many times under hypnosis and
I would like to know if you are of the opinion that I am experiencing a
disincarnate spirit's life? And if that is true, would my ex-lover in Spirit be
experiencing another disincarnate spirit's life along with me?
Unlike Tim, he has told me we've had countless lives
together. All of them, including what I am now experiencing, have been tragic.
I am questioning my own writing, my own experience, my relationship with Jerry,
and my head is spinning after reading this chapter.
Jerry is urging me to move forward with this book. He has
advised me our purpose is to share this love story with those in grief, who
need healing. Would you mind sharing your thoughts on this? I would truly
appreciate it. Thank you so much!
To read the entire chapter in question,
To read Tim's shorter synopsis, go here.
There is far too much depth to your questions, Victoria, to
answer here easily and completely—and, in fact, any conclusive answers will really
have to fully be yours and Jerry’s. More exploration is called for, into areas
that were previously hidden or unimagined, but are now being unveiled in the strange and mysterious ways of Spirit. Although
we can't promise definitive answers, we would still like to offer some energy
toward the expansion of your questions—which Tim and I recognize less as
questions and more as doorways or portals, beckoning you toward something more,
which initially will be more questions. And perhaps you do, too. Do we always need to replace all the
question marks of our lives with periods? We gently hand your questions back
into your safekeeping, as you and Jerry venture forth into the portals certain
ones in Spirit have opened. Can the both of you continue on forward together—open, curious, fearless
of the mysteries?
Here are some initial and maybe pesky questions that come from
Tim and me, as well as others in Spirit. (You don’t have to provide answers,
they’re open-ended and very likely can’t be answered easily with words, if at
all.) Notice that they are “what” rather than “why” questions. This is because why
leads to more questions, and what
can quickly bring us to a settled point that
is the feeling of a fact, which we may or may not be able to observe externally—yet. It’s more the feeling and its encoded information that is wanted for our purpose.
- What is it about your questions (or parts of them) that feel important to you and Jerry right now?
- What are the feelings that come with the questions? What information do these feelings bring you?
- What is the role that worry or other fear-based feelings are playing, including any doubt, that appear to be part of your questions?
- What are the benefits that you are expecting from the answers to your questions?
- What are the benefits that you expect will result from writing and sharing such a book?
- What is meant by “tragic”? What about that specific word offers the best idea of the experiences? Is the drama of tragedy once and forever finished, to be no more? Are tragedies acceptable memories for either or both of you right now? If benefit for others is part of what you seek to offer, do such stories benefit others? Are we annoying you yet?
- At what point is healthy skepticism no longer needed, or is it always needed? Tim and I rigorously practice healthy skepticism toward one another—not as if to say “I don’t believe you” when one of us says something that sounds like nonsense—but to stimulate further expansive exploration by implying, “I sense there might be more that neither of us are aware of yet; let’s keep asking until we feel some kind of alignment.” This is our playful way of being with one another, rather than a way that feels like over-serious work.
What you're both ultimately wanting is clarity. You might
not even yet realize that this is the ultimate wanting, especially if the
current awakening realization is that confusion is temporarily blocking the way
to fuller awakening to what the reality of your relationship really is and really
is not. Confusion arises from two or
more feelings that are trying to occupy the same space, and cannot find
resonance with one another, which would create a new or different feeling.
Thus, confusion slows or halts the forward movement of creative self-evolution.
Because we do not remember the fullness of our authentic power of divine
self-presence, most of us utilize the inherited human race habit of instead going
backwards instead of forward, which is what the Risen were talking about when
referring to our trying to swim back upstream.
It has been clarified for me as a psychotherapist over the
years that most of us don’t find the unsettling of our beliefs to be a welcome
feeling, especially when it comes to something like the subject of
reincarnation, which has so many definitions to begin with. Which definition
are we even talking about here?
Tim and I notice that the primary thread that runs
throughout this subject, millennia upon millennia, is one of fear. When fear is
removed, the attention is now free—we are free—to let go of any thoughts that were
running on the program of fear. What arises from this sense of release, which
is an actual release, is what those such as The Risen ask us to focus on. The
best word I can find for the interpretation of their idea of “focus” is “now”—not
as a noun, but more as a “verb of non-doing.” So maybe, “nowing.” Which looks
and even sounds rather like “knowing,” doesn’t it? This echoes a Risen
directive that I will only mention very briefly here, as it is also weird and
complex, which is “Do not.” This notion is explored and utilized in great
detail and authority in the next book they are helping to manifest. But, for nowing
, and simply, at the very
heart of this notion, is the idea of surrender.
And so at some point, quite long ago, I soon and simply
stopped engaging in extended dialogues about the subject—I surrendered—which is
why I let Tim organize and produce that chapter. It was not written quickly or easily,
as you most likely can tell from the kinds of questions I asked Tim about what
he and other Risen were suggesting. The book itself took almost 8 years of
intensive interaction with thousands of Risen people, and quite literally every
sentence, word and punctuation was placed precisely by them, picky beings that
they are. Nothing was written in haste, but in the slowest and highest reverential
consideration as possible by those in Spirit. It’s not surprising that many
people have had their beliefs rattled and shaken up by the material in the
chapter about reincarnation, including past-life regressionists and hypnotherapists—it’s potentially strong potential stuff. It’s caused a few rifts here and there in certain communities. The
Risen interpretation of reincarnation in our book is “the pastime
of reincarnation” which implies less heavy seriousness and
much more lightness and fun. The “lightening up” is another form of
surrendering to what’s going on now between us, and say, a disincarnate friend.
When we get too serious about our immortality, we lose the feeling of it and
then become disconnected from the ever-streaming knowledge flowing forth into
our personal experiences.
But it seems that everyone eventually forgets about any apples
we upset from their cart, and quickly return to the previously known that’s
most comfortable. We believe what we prefer to believe. This is where the
complexity of memory in grief events, as mismanaged by an undisciplined ego-mind,
becomes involved. Our new book, (in press) which is already well into its 5th
year of unfolding, is specifically about grief and goes into much more deep
detail about the ego-mind’s complex doings and undoings.
How thrilling it must have been for Jerry to awaken in his new
geography, and then for the two of you to awaken even further into the surprise of such an
extraordinary new relationship! You and Jerry are together awakening in the midst
of an incredible, experiential, awakening
journey, most likely contained within another incredible journey, and that one
within another one, and so on, and so on … infinooty
as Tim says, and worlds within worlds, as is said in our book. Are these worlds
all real or imaginal, or a mixture of both? Yes, is the simplest and yet
paradoxical answer for now.
At some point, we may begin to realize that we have been
swimming about in too many worlds for too long and would rather now rise and
return to the surface to The One World. We will not attempt to define the meaning of "The One World" here because we know that you already know, so we can rest in this knowing, this nowing, for now. This "return" usually involves what seems like
an experience of swimming back, back, back to the primal origins of the dramas
we believe we lived, and then re-experiencing them with a new mind, and with
new thought. What we thought the memories are showing us then turn out to be
something very different. Some of us will make such journeys, but most of us
won’t for a very long time, instead believing what the ego-mind tells us from its own fear-based
agenda of the belief in death.
And, so, you’ve read the chapter. What is called for next is to
allow yourself to sit for a while and let the dust settle before trying to
solve what might seem like a terribly big problem. If it seems like a problem
that needs solving, this is most likely the undisciplined ego-mind trying use
the brain’s talents as a problem-solving organ. Brains are not what is needed
here, but rather heart. Your head is spinning, as you say. Disengage from the
brain’s incessant thinking attempts to spin more solution-stories, and engage
with the shared infinite heartspace
between you and Jerry—as you each are now,
and as you both together are, now—not then. We know that it can seem difficult
because of all the well-meaning books, teachers, philosophies, traditions, and
so on, that have given us too much past-life stuff to over-think about over many millennia. At some point—if we should be so blessed—some tiny bit of a higher
reality will give us a tiny little pinch, which at first becomes irritating
because it won’t go away. Instead of swatting it away or trying to change or
correct it, give it enough quiet space that you can begin to focus on the
possibly very new feelings they want to bring you—some stunning news from
Spirit. I've found over the years that Spirit needs a lot of stunning quiet.
Feelings are energy which bring us specific messages through
the instrument of our physical body. Since the messages aren’t in English or in
any other human language, we have to learn how to bypass the left-brain’s
attempts to decipher emotional messages and instead let our intuition lead
the expedition down the rabbit hole. Often the ones giving us the tiny, gentle
but irritating tweak are our Spirit Guides. If the undisciplined ego-mind is
used to having its own way, and is always filling up our headspace with
loudness, it can be quite difficult to find the quiet space needed to hear the
gentle suggestions of our Spirit Guides. It is our responsibility to find, claim and
expand such space for ourselves. You and Jerry have such a space.
Early on after his transition, Tim’s attempts to mentally
and emotionally interact with me were often interfered with by my ego-mind,
which is clever enough to know how to imitate anyone and anything, convincing
me of certain things which were later adjusted and resolved, once I learned how
to “enter the stillness” as some mediums put it, where the ego-mind cannot go,
and Tim and I could commune in uninterrupted peace. Then the higher aspects of
our personal truths and our relationship began to reveal themselves.
It may be presumptuous to assume that all hypnotherapists
are working from the same set of ethical modalities, but I would hope that they
have some grounded understanding in the primary clinical modalities that have
evolved from shared and personal human psychodynamic and psychoanalytical
exploration. It is not uncommon for guide-like figures to arise from within the
depths of our underconscious, which includes the collective underconscious of
the human race-mind. (I use here my discernment of the Risen idea of
“underconscious” rather than the classical “unconscious” because They posit
that since every thing is conscious, there is no such thing as
“unconsciousness”—rather there is lack of awareness of consciousness.)
Connecting with our feelings may give rise to such figures
presenting as symbolized by a person, a figure who may manifest as a well-known
icon, or perhaps a friend, or even someone we've never seen before—including
animals. They may tell us that they are from our past lives—or that is what we
think we hear them saying. These figures may not even be actual Spirit Guides, or
other such living beings, but repressed or isolated aspects of our inner self
that are seeking to integrate into our whole sense of self by communicating to
us. First they have to get our attention, and will be very creative about it.
Once we begin communicating with them, information then begins to be shared;
insights arise and learning and transformation can then occur. Sometimes these
personal or global archetypal figures will lead us to our actual Spirit Guides
and other interdimensional beings, and for this reason it is important to not
dismiss such mysterious and perplexing manifestations as mere fantasies, but to
give them space and our open, inquiring attention.
The specific part about the personal archetypal energies that
we are intending for you is that each of us might be engaging with and not
realizing that they are who we are, and not separate personalities of other people,
times and dimensions. This bit of information might be useful to you and Jerry
as you work to arrive at your own conclusions.
Tim and I know, from experience, that as people read and
re-read our book, and especially that particular chapter, that previously
hidden or invisible material on the page suddenly becomes visible—countless
readers have shared about this over the years. The material may look like plain
old words typed on a plain old page, but apparently, they’re much more. They
have been specifically encoded to awaken us by changing our vibrations in some higher way, giving
us a nudge or even a pinch here and there. So allow yourself time if you
re-read the chapter, and take only what you need and leave the rest. We also
hope you read Tim’s synopsis in the link provided above.
As you wisely have noted in an earlier message to us, nothing’s
written in stone—even the awakening stone is always moving forward in its
process of change and evolution. It is the awakening that becomes the realized
desire, for awakening is all that can happen in an eternal, never-ending
Universe for immortal beings. Moving forward with your book is perhaps just the
thing that’s needed as the vehicle that will carry the you and Jerry into yet